tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post5303875353033598907..comments2023-06-11T12:58:24.481+02:00Comments on Managing Colors: Cintiq 24 HD - Monitor Calbration and ProfilingVittorio Villanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05004866738936418492noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-23372182623914960882022-02-10T10:05:55.641+01:002022-02-10T10:05:55.641+01:00For anyone finding this. Dont invest in Spyder har...For anyone finding this. Dont invest in Spyder hardware. Its crap. It always had issues with calibrating properly and should not be used if you are professionally working on anything color related. Go for x-rite. Costs a bit more but will save you a lot of nerves and timeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779388056475339912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-23555564512708136682016-02-23T11:18:26.448+01:002016-02-23T11:18:26.448+01:00I wonder if you might know an answer to a problem ...I wonder if you might know an answer to a problem I can't seem to solve. I have a Cintiq 24HD with Alienware 17 laptop. When calibrating with X-Rite Diplay Pro the highest luminance I can reach is 44Cd/m^2, rather than 120Cd/m^2. In iprofiler I have used the settings recommended by X-rite (advanced mode, D65, 120 Cd/m^2 luminance, gamma 2.2, manual adjustments). I asked X-rite, Wacom and Alienware for help but they don't know. Any idea what's wrong, by any chance?metaphroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12043273324472000538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-12985099092549886322016-01-20T05:47:03.593+01:002016-01-20T05:47:03.593+01:00I am very choosy when it comes to buying a HD moni...I am very choosy when it comes to buying a <a href="http://www.idnsal.com/news.php" rel="nofollow">HD monitor</a> because I want the best.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04556714026619373851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-10992840920535763912014-04-17T22:32:04.450+02:002014-04-17T22:32:04.450+02:00I purchased a 24 hd a year ago and have been notic...I purchased a 24 hd a year ago and have been noticing the problem of colors appearing more saturated on the cintiq vs my computer monitor. I'm assuming this is due to me not color calibrating my device? I see you use the basICColor discus, but that item is way outside of my budget range, is there another color calibration tool you would recommend?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14046533255529656884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-66261676861787845832013-11-07T10:05:50.054+01:002013-11-07T10:05:50.054+01:00I just read your blog frequently. Thanks for shari...I just read your blog frequently. Thanks for sharing your thoughts....it was a nice post.<br /><a href="http://digital-media-tech.com/colorcorrection.htm" rel="nofollow">colour correction</a><br />Groupdmthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07139387039591209153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-32778852829079971362013-10-28T15:23:47.717+01:002013-10-28T15:23:47.717+01:00Today i got my 24 hd touch and since in your artic...Today i got my 24 hd touch and since in your article you mentioned that the 24hd came with a profile on the driver cd i checked and found nothing. <br />So i called wacom support and they said that for years the cintiqs have not been delivered with color profiles anymore. The 21UX were the last version (so i was told) that had color profiles on the driver cd. <br /><br />So i guess i'll have to manage with the old Gretag eye-one i got. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03126851296458063726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-54069876273290700182013-06-13T09:15:20.000+02:002013-06-13T09:15:20.000+02:00I don't know how much you follow the blog any ...I don't know how much you follow the blog any more, but I recently bought an X-Rite i1 Display Pro as I could finally get it into the budget. I already have the Cintiq 24HD for quite a while<br />I am passionate about colors and obsessed with getting them right. But I'm not a professional and not even close to being one, I think. But I do try to learn as much as I can, when I have the time.<br />So, I have to say thank you.<br />Because, with the i1 Display and it's software, I just couldn't manage getting a good average DeltaE nor great min. and max. values.<br />So, I decided to try the basICColor software and with your settings and still using the i1 Display as hardware, I managed getting a good result.<br />At least compared with the previous one.<br />My averages are very close to yours.<br />I will try to post the results somewhere so you can see.<br /><br />Again, thanks. ;)mEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317404406621212877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-31643422219031746842012-01-24T11:15:49.792+01:002012-01-24T11:15:49.792+01:00Hi Sam, thanks for your comment.
The Cintiq 24HD ...Hi Sam, thanks for your comment.<br /><br />The Cintiq 24HD has a good display. You should have no problems in using it as a reference monitor for shadow and highlight details. Please notice that is very important to have a device (spectrophotometer or colorimeter) to calibrate and make a profile for your display to reach good performance. You should re-do this calibration/profiling process during time (some users do it every day, other every 2 months, depending on their needs).<br /><br />The 24HD screen is a noticeable improvement over the 12WX screen and, in my opinion, is better than most of the Apple and Samsung monitors that I have tried. Some Eizo GS and Nec monitor are better, but they are in another price-range. Anyway I again suggest you to buy a good hardware (i1Display PRO should be fine) for your monitors (you could try it also on the 12WX, it may improve the 12” screen performance).<br /><br />Please notice that it is very difficult to perfectly match 2 different monitors, but with a good hardware/software combination you should be able to get them close enough to work properly.<br /><br />Maybe I will post an update review of the Cintiq 24HD monitor with numerical and graphical comparison with other monitors (and older Cintiqs).Vittorio Villanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004866738936418492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-89110702237730629672012-01-22T16:40:16.118+01:002012-01-22T16:40:16.118+01:00Hi Vittorio, thanks for all the info you've po...Hi Vittorio, thanks for all the info you've posted here about the Cintiq 24". I have a question regarding the colour display when working with the more subtle end of the dark and light spectrum. Having just filled out a returns form for the 12WX I got for my birthday, I want to make sure that the 24" display is capable of handling the subtle variations in tone I need as a professional concept artist. I have a background in design with a lot of photo colour correction too, and having worked with fairly decent screens from Apple, I'm very picky about subtle colour shifts. The 12WX colour subtlety was shocking and very undersaturated compared to both my Samsung and Apple monitors, and seemed incpaable of displaying strong magentas and reds. Have you had much experience with this, or know anyone that has?Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05142003383121475027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-16507642280810258862011-10-18T19:05:01.702+02:002011-10-18T19:05:01.702+02:00Your Spider3 could not work properly on this monit...Your Spider3 could not work properly on this monitor. If you google it, you will find that many users have experienced problems with the Spyder3 and different types of monitors. My suggestion is to try another colorimeter.<br /><br />Anyway when you talk about color casts remember that the monitor can be “correct” and your eyes could get fooled by other light sources in the room where you are.Vittorio Villanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004866738936418492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-54675246425608118412011-10-18T15:37:31.472+02:002011-10-18T15:37:31.472+02:00You've got a red cast, well I've got a gre...You've got a red cast, well I've got a green one. Being redoing profiles all day, but my Spyder3Elite seems to make it worse. It doesn't to it to my other screens. hmm.FEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17981731301608493164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-9364706593487767272011-10-11T19:26:21.489+02:002011-10-11T19:26:21.489+02:00There is no red cast on my unit. The Spyder3 is kn...There is no red cast on my unit. The Spyder3 is known to have some problems with wide gamut display in some cases (not all Spyder3, but some older model). It could be that you have a cast without calibration and/or if you are using a wrong/bad profile. But if you calibrate your device to a specific white point and luminance and you properly make a profile than you should not have any casts, unless your calibration device is broken. Maybe you are using bad calibration settings or you are in an environment whit green lights. The fact that an internet site is wrongly displayed is not indicative (maybe the browser or the site don’t support wide-gamut monitor). What I would do is try a different device and check that all the parameters and settings that I am using are correct.Vittorio Villanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004866738936418492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-10582171607043516982011-10-11T18:30:12.607+02:002011-10-11T18:30:12.607+02:00From day 1 I think the reds are to bright. So I ca...From day 1 I think the reds are to bright. So I calibrated with Spyder3 and yep... sites like www.madebymighty.com oder even Youtube are too red. <br /><br />I tried the Cintiq-CD-profile... my calibrated profile and gosh... RED ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-88064943569950178462011-10-03T20:31:13.877+02:002011-10-03T20:31:13.877+02:00Grutch: it is always bad to read such things. I re...Grutch: it is always bad to read such things. I really don’t understand why Wacom is not applying the same 0-bad pixel policy of other companies. I discovered a bad sub pixel in the corner of my NEC SpectraView and they will replace it sending me a new unit before I send back mine, so that I can continue to work. Please let me know what Wacom tells you. This product is 2300 euro here in Europe if you buy it from Wacom eStore…<br /><br />Pocket Clouds: thanks, this is correct. But I have to say:<br />1) What happens if I get a monitor with a bad-pixel? I know the answer, I will have to keep it.<br />2) Wacom told me that they don’t know how long will it take to replace the unit.<br /><br />I have waited all day for an answer from Wacom, but they didn’t tell me anything about a possible replacement unit.Vittorio Villanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004866738936418492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-3198368871630033502011-10-03T19:21:00.305+02:002011-10-03T19:21:00.305+02:00I think you can replace your cintiq totally free f...I think you can replace your cintiq totally free for this problem. Try to call the assistance...Samuele Granzottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09756945888106218161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111034661006164582.post-2153458008823764132011-10-03T18:18:47.392+02:002011-10-03T18:18:47.392+02:00I recently received my 24HD. It came packaged in ...I recently received my 24HD. It came packaged in a loose fitting box strapped to a movers palette. The thrill and excitement for my long awaited tablet was immediately crushed upon discovery of a dead pixel near center screen. Thanks for the great quality control Wacom!Grutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01391824837072785287noreply@blogger.com